Of course, the second amendment is there to defend against government tyranny and overreach and the militarization of our cities. Don’t exactly see 2Aers and the NRA rushing to defend Chicago and Baltimore from federal military occupation.
So the more I think about it, the more what Kirk says is a) probably true, and b) easy to agree with in the abstract. “Some” gun deaths are necessary and unavoidable. Some deaths. People I don’t know. People who aren’t real to me. Just like the “Trump could shoot someone dead and I’d still support him.” That’s easy. “Someone” is anyone. “Someone” is no one. What if it was your wife? Your husband? Your little girl? Your son about to start school? Your mother, father, aunt, uncle, someone you know, someone you care about? “Trump could shoot my daughter and I’d still support him.” “My son dying is worth the second amendment standing.” It’s too easy to support the abstract. Make it personal and see what happens. I submit to you that this is what is going to happen to a subset of the MAGAverse. Not all not most, but a sliver. They’ll see it. Because a cost isn’t real until you pay it.
The NRA didn’t take that stance until 1977 when Harlon Carter and Neal Knox took over the organization in a revolt in response to the 1968 Gun Control Act. Up until then the NRA was more about firearms safety. I myself and my family were converted into this cult. I made it out. I still own guns, but they’re in a safe, and if the govt wanted me to take firearms classes and carry insurance I’d do it.
Your comparison isn't as intellectual as you think. There's a difference between citizens being able to defend themselves from a tyrannical government trying to subvert individual freedom, and the government helping to enforce existing law to protect the individual freedom of law abiding citizens. These cities have the power and ability to enforce this now, but they aren't doing it... it is a deliberate process. All Trump is saying is enforce law and order to protect the public or we'll have to do it for you. The citizens in DC are appreciative (except the white liberals of course). We will have to see if he is constitutionally allowed to do such a thing because we already know every liberal judge is just itching to file a national injunction.
Okay. Sending in the military to enforce the law is against the law, that’s well-known. So instead, we have National Guard troops… what. Picking up trash? Landscaping? They’re the UN peacekeeping force of this situation. And why does the President get to decide who is or isn’t doing everything they can to enforce state laws? This is a man who is cutting aid budgets left and right, putting people into deeper desperation. Do you really think it’s the President’s job to enforce state and local law? To ensure arrestees are prosecuted? Is there no limit to the power you want to give this man? And that’s a serious question because there doesn’t seem to be. The President sending in the military to a sovereign state that has not asked for nor wants it to be there is pretty much the definition of a tyrannical government trying to subvert individual freedom.
Why don't you ask the DC businesses who are loosing $1000s. Trump is lying. Formerly lively DC neighborhoods look like ghost towns. But Trump likes it that way so he doesn't have to rub elbows with all the "loosers."
Don’t want anyone to be killed, but hey, I’d rather it be Mr. Protect MY 2nd Amendment Rights Guy than a child. Well Charlie, your 2nd Amendments are still protected.
Charlie Kirk was a nasty propagandist who radicalized young people and was proud of it. He, and his ilk, spread hateful rhetoric, real vitriol. That, with no good regulatory gun control, has had disastrous results. He is a victim of his own hateful lies.
Wouldn’t this be a most opportune time for Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries to introduce a joint resolution asking the Congress to urgently pass a strict federal gun control law. Don’t rule out that this may have been an “inside job”, perhaps ordered by Putin, to stir up the bee hive of radical right wing MAGATs or Trump , in order to justify the looming police state and cancellation of the 2026 election.
Well, he died putting his money where his mouth is. Even when he first made that comment, I wondered why nobody called him on it back then? There was NOT this type of gun violence back in the day. Not until guns proliferated.
RIP man-child. Oh no! Did he have enough money to get into heaven?! Maybe trump (the cheapest guy I can think of {unless he’s playing with tax-payer dollars}) will pay his entrance fee? Really though, no one deserves such violence but now maybe republicans will want stricter gun laws 🤷♂️ (but probably not).
Violence is never an answer but the “God given rights” that the right wing bought and paid for NRA complicit murderers blither about, is straight up bullshit. Would Jesus or God be packing? How fucking stupid and disingenuous is that. Weapons of death, or “God and guns”, is for devil worshipers. Nothing but love gets accepted at the pearly gates, period.
Of course, the second amendment is there to defend against government tyranny and overreach and the militarization of our cities. Don’t exactly see 2Aers and the NRA rushing to defend Chicago and Baltimore from federal military occupation.
Bingo! That's precisely what the 2nd Amendment is for!
So the more I think about it, the more what Kirk says is a) probably true, and b) easy to agree with in the abstract. “Some” gun deaths are necessary and unavoidable. Some deaths. People I don’t know. People who aren’t real to me. Just like the “Trump could shoot someone dead and I’d still support him.” That’s easy. “Someone” is anyone. “Someone” is no one. What if it was your wife? Your husband? Your little girl? Your son about to start school? Your mother, father, aunt, uncle, someone you know, someone you care about? “Trump could shoot my daughter and I’d still support him.” “My son dying is worth the second amendment standing.” It’s too easy to support the abstract. Make it personal and see what happens. I submit to you that this is what is going to happen to a subset of the MAGAverse. Not all not most, but a sliver. They’ll see it. Because a cost isn’t real until you pay it.
The NRA didn’t take that stance until 1977 when Harlon Carter and Neal Knox took over the organization in a revolt in response to the 1968 Gun Control Act. Up until then the NRA was more about firearms safety. I myself and my family were converted into this cult. I made it out. I still own guns, but they’re in a safe, and if the govt wanted me to take firearms classes and carry insurance I’d do it.
Your comparison isn't as intellectual as you think. There's a difference between citizens being able to defend themselves from a tyrannical government trying to subvert individual freedom, and the government helping to enforce existing law to protect the individual freedom of law abiding citizens. These cities have the power and ability to enforce this now, but they aren't doing it... it is a deliberate process. All Trump is saying is enforce law and order to protect the public or we'll have to do it for you. The citizens in DC are appreciative (except the white liberals of course). We will have to see if he is constitutionally allowed to do such a thing because we already know every liberal judge is just itching to file a national injunction.
Okay. Sending in the military to enforce the law is against the law, that’s well-known. So instead, we have National Guard troops… what. Picking up trash? Landscaping? They’re the UN peacekeeping force of this situation. And why does the President get to decide who is or isn’t doing everything they can to enforce state laws? This is a man who is cutting aid budgets left and right, putting people into deeper desperation. Do you really think it’s the President’s job to enforce state and local law? To ensure arrestees are prosecuted? Is there no limit to the power you want to give this man? And that’s a serious question because there doesn’t seem to be. The President sending in the military to a sovereign state that has not asked for nor wants it to be there is pretty much the definition of a tyrannical government trying to subvert individual freedom.
Why don't you ask the DC businesses who are loosing $1000s. Trump is lying. Formerly lively DC neighborhoods look like ghost towns. But Trump likes it that way so he doesn't have to rub elbows with all the "loosers."
Still feel that way, Charlie?
His ghost does
Hmmm, gives me doubts!
Send us a reply Charlie Kirk!
Consult a Ouija board!
Kirk was more than willing to accept kids as collateral damage as a price for lackadaisical gun laws. The irony.
I don’t like this post, but last month a Democrat politician and her husband were shot to death. Now this.
Isn’t it past time for gun control laws like everyone else?
And trump didn't even say a gd word about them. But now, oh now that it's one of his own, the POS sure reacted quickly, didn't he!
And gives Babbit military funeral honors yet says not ONE word about the Dem politician, her husband, and dog.
Trump, has zero idea of military honors, because he never served!
With school shootings in between the two!
Not according to Republicans
It will not change anything with them.
POETIC FUCKING JUSTICE!!!!!!
And in fucking Bright red Utah.
Apparently now a "shit-hole state".
time to bring in the guard
Well, I guess he got his wish
Don’t want anyone to be killed, but hey, I’d rather it be Mr. Protect MY 2nd Amendment Rights Guy than a child. Well Charlie, your 2nd Amendments are still protected.
Live by the sword. Die by the sword. Thoughts and prayers as they always say.
Charlie Kirk was a nasty propagandist who radicalized young people and was proud of it. He, and his ilk, spread hateful rhetoric, real vitriol. That, with no good regulatory gun control, has had disastrous results. He is a victim of his own hateful lies.
Damn straight. He is not so “exceptional” any more is he? He’s just like the rest of us expendable common people.
Wouldn’t this be a most opportune time for Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries to introduce a joint resolution asking the Congress to urgently pass a strict federal gun control law. Don’t rule out that this may have been an “inside job”, perhaps ordered by Putin, to stir up the bee hive of radical right wing MAGATs or Trump , in order to justify the looming police state and cancellation of the 2026 election.
Well, he died putting his money where his mouth is. Even when he first made that comment, I wondered why nobody called him on it back then? There was NOT this type of gun violence back in the day. Not until guns proliferated.
Big Democrat i am, gun control advocate. This is shocking & sad. Unfortunately American. So sad & wrong. Can't we stop no matter who no matter what?
You talking when 2 Kennedy killings? Abraham Lincoln? Maybe before? How many? Do homework history.
Over & over.
You are right, but to be honest, I was referencing the 47 school shootings so far, just this year in the US. 23 of them in K-12 schools.
RIP man-child. Oh no! Did he have enough money to get into heaven?! Maybe trump (the cheapest guy I can think of {unless he’s playing with tax-payer dollars}) will pay his entrance fee? Really though, no one deserves such violence but now maybe republicans will want stricter gun laws 🤷♂️ (but probably not).
he proved his own point. There will be some deaths!
One less egg to fry! Sad about this? I can't. Fuck Kirk now and always.
He reaped what he sowed. Now there are 2 children that will never know him.
I wish their mother much success in raising two responsible people.
https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=1800%20bombi%20g%20in%20the%20usa%20in%20the%2070%20s&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5
Now we use guns. High powered guns that anyone in this country can buy. Made here.
Violence is never an answer but the “God given rights” that the right wing bought and paid for NRA complicit murderers blither about, is straight up bullshit. Would Jesus or God be packing? How fucking stupid and disingenuous is that. Weapons of death, or “God and guns”, is for devil worshipers. Nothing but love gets accepted at the pearly gates, period.